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225. Meghan Daum on Our Culture's Catastrophe Hour

The author/podcaster talks with Nancy and Sarah about the political incoherence of meme worlds and a memoir scandal that might just put the nail in "Believe Women." Also: The return of Alex P. Keaton!

Nancy and Sarah speak with Meghan Daum, the podcaster behind The Unspeakable and author of a great new collection of essays, The Catastrophe Hour. They talk about writing, Charlie Kirk, young people casting around for meaning, and a very eye-raising report in the New York Times about a recent blockbuster memoir about MDMA-assisted recovered memories of violent sexual assault. It raises some questions!

Will this be a tipping point for the publishing industry? We discuss integrity, celebrity, Oprah Winfrey, the challenge of selling books, and how to fact-check memories in the first place.

Also discussed:

  • Tylenol: Latest tool of the Resistance

  • Are Reddit posts the new sad girl diaries?

  • That time Meghan observed Turning Point gatherings …

  • The return of Alex P. Keaton!

  • Books usually don’t have fact-checkers

  • Sarah’s hard lessons when editing personal essays

  • Incoherence, the theme of our time

  • Fabulists in the memoir genre like moths to a flame

  • Toot’n Totum!

  • “Nancy is Marie Antoinette.”

  • The 90s are back, and if you invite us to your party, we will totally stand around the kitchen smoking clove cigarettes

  • “Monchhichi, monchhichi, oh so soft and cuddly”

  • The truth vs. my truth

  • How is Meghan’s new book like a handgun?

  • Paul Newman used French eye drops?

  • NYT reader comments FTW

Plus, the John Brown Gun Club, a tragic story of literary shame, more Robert Reford love, and much more!

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