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210: Dan Savage on P Diddy: Cuckolding, Freak-Offs, and What is Sex Trafficking

EXPLICIT WARNING! One of the world's great sex writers/thinkers/speakers on the Sean Combs trial, why the "not guilty" verdicts may be galling, but also correct. Plus: Dan teaches us about "hotwifing"

Dan Savage: What better person to explain the mess that is the P Diddy trial? The “Savage Love” columnist/podcaster chats with Sarah and Nancy about the hip-hop mogul’s fetishes, OCD kinksters, the troubling statute of limitations on domestic abuse, and the dangerous elasticity of the term “sex trafficking.” This one is fascinating, fraught, and taught us a lot!

Also discussed:

  • “It’s not RICO, it’s FREAK-O!”

  • Dan stans Steve & Eydie

  • Sarah is a little cinnamon, Nancy’s straight-up vanilla

  • White parties started in gay culture?

  • “A moment of silence for the staff of these hotels…”

  • Clive Owens gets swapped with Clive Davis in a WILD WAY

  • “There’s something Caligula about Combs …”

  • It’s all about the glisten

  • “Sex always wins.”

  • Hotwifing??

  • “I got cheated on, YAHTZEE!”

  • “Pity sex is not rape”

  • Men find their kinks at 15, women at 35

  • Very tricky: Consent versus coercion

  • “Good giving and game” might needs some corrections/clarifications

  • The case for decriminalization of sex work

  • The moral panic of “sex trafficking”

  • The elasticity of the word “rape”

Plus, some (qualified) props for Monica Lewinsky, Sarah pouts because Nancy’s going on a date with another Sarah, New Orleans cops know all the lyrics to "Fairytale of New York,” and much more!

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As for the scene outside criminal court after Diddy was found not guilty of most charges …

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