72. Jon Ronson, a Femme Fatale for Nazis, and the Lens of Wonderment

The writer/podcaster/documentarian Jon Ronson joins Nancy and Sarah, and they could not be more excited. Highlights include:

• Jon compliments Sarah, Sarah swoons

• The podcast inspired when Jon’s 11-year-old son asked if he knew PornHub

• Jon’s pronunciation of porn (“pohhhhhn”) and the strange spectacle of adult entertainment, including two-camera orgies and bespoke porn

• The sin of “both-sidesism”

• The hardest story Jon ever had to report

• Why Jon turned down Piers Morgan

• Jon’s new Audible podcast “The Debutante” about the mystery of Carol Howe, who may or may not have been able to prevent the Oklahoma City bombing

• Dial-A-Racist?

• Informants get $25 a day??

• “Things Fell Apart” season two on the way!

• The problem with defining people by small slivers of their lives

• A judge caught masturbating during trial and other untold stories

Go see Jon in London! He’ll be appearing at two events later this month, a May 24 “Things Fell Apart LIVE!” and a non-fiction writing workshop on the 28.