176. Kat Rosenfield on Lively/Baldoni and the Celebrity Proxy Wars

“I am still waiting for my bathrobe, and until you give it to me, I am going to be forced to do this podcast in the nude,” Kat Rosenfield tells Nancy and Sarah, who really need to move on this gift they keep promising her for repeat appearances. Kat is here to discuss her recent Free Press column on Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni, “a turducken of a story” about alleged misbehavior and creative control on the set of It Ends With Us. The stars’ dueling legal documents lit up social media over the holidays, but it’s … confusing. Kat sees it less as a “he said/she said," and more of a battle of PR narratives.

Also discussed:

• But who is Colleen Hoover?

• “I have a series of really hot takes…”

• Justin Baldoni: sexy or nah?

• Nancy likes a dad bod

• Is asking someone what they weigh “fat-shaming”?

• “I have been taken on a journey of eroticism and repulsion, and that’s what I count on you for…”

• Shades of Depp-Heard

• Megan Twohey strikes again

• “Astro-turfed pseudo-consensus”; rolls right off the tongue

• How to pronounce “simulacram”?

• Reflexive outrage: what is it good for?

• Wait, that’s not Markle’s kitchen?

• Ascribing a richness of interior life to people that they neither have nor deserve

Plus, dry cake, Nancy’s failing face, a movie trailer that gives all the cringes, and much more!