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194. Liz Wolfe on the Awesomeness of Motherhood and Due Process
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194. Liz Wolfe on the Awesomeness of Motherhood and Due Process

The Reason writer joins Nancy and Sarah to talk about Chappell Roan's viral comments on parenting, Trump administration screw-ups, and why kvetching is part of motherhood's transcendent joy
photo by Nancy, Joshua Tree, 2022

Liz Wolfe, Reason writer/podcaster, joins Nancy and Sarah to talk about the mess of politics, the value of free speech, and how to talk about parenting in a world where fewer and fewer women are parents. Wolfe is not your average 28 year old: Unapologetically pro-life and pro-natalist as a time when many in her generation haven’t even started contemplating freezing their eggs. Or, in the case of singer Chappell Roan, 27, they might tell an interviewer, “All of my friends who have kids are in hell. I actually don’t know anyone who’s happy and has children at this age.”

Liz has thoughts!

With her surfboard in the background and her toddler occasionally in her lap, Liz talks about choices, wonders, border chaos, her Catholic faith, reproductive tech, and why she’s pleased that Grok compared her to Kat Timpf.

Also discussed:

  • Happy Liberation Day?

  • Grok summarizes your narrators, and Sarah gets grumpy

  • Nancy’s alter-ego has a pie in her backpack, with a gun

  • Truth Czar, Disinformation Chief … have the American people not suffered enough?

  • Sarah is pissed on Matt Taibbi’s behalf

  • Talk to your hairdresser about the New York Times

  • Warren Beatty quote: “One of the nice things God does is, he does not let people who don't have kids know what they're missing.”

  • Chappell Roan, a second-rate Lady Gaga

  • “Ambiguous loss”

  • Will Sarah have a kid on her own?

  • Do NOT call Nancy a single mother

  • Unrealistic expectations about our fertility window

  • “I bite Mama!”

And this is what it looks like trying to stay on topic when you see that a toddler has entered the chat:

Plus, sliding out of Obama-era liberalism, the hazards of toxic empathy, poop under your fake nails, and much more!

REMINDER: This Sunday April 6 is our First Sunday Zoom hang! 8pm ET / 5pm PT, paid subscribers get a link the day-of.

All of my friends who aren’t paid subscribers are in hell. I actually don’t know anyone who’s not a paid subscriber at this age.

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