197. Three-Year Anniversary: Change or Die

Notice the Diet Pepsi in the styrofoam cup that Sarah will later spill all over the hotel bed (if history is any indicator).

Just out here, two ladies taking in the view from three years into their podcast on the outskirts of the zeitgeist. The Old 97s make honest women of us. Dave Cicirelli gives us a new look. Nancy and Sarah are making this episode free to everyone, in celebration of 1095+ days of trying to make sense of this crazy world.

Also discussed:

• The Smoke ‘Em guests that riled up listeners

• Ross Douthat “places his finger on the deep wound”

• We love a dorky wedding!

• Pop quiz for Nancy: Pronounce “swastika”

• Our 2025 guest wish list: we’re looking at you, Douglas Murray.

• Conclave, cleavage, whatever

• Mike Pesca and his “New Substack” panic button

• “Don’t put it down, put it away …”

• Nancy will never lose her contempt for Bernadine Dohrn

• The hotness of Diego Luna

• The hotness of Tom Hardy

• Nancy’s mom

• POP ROCKS!

Plus, things that are sexy: men who take the lead, flying toward the story, pleather, and much more!

Episode Notes:

New year, new design! Thank you Dave Cicirelli xx

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“An Age of Extinction is Coming. Here’s How to Survive,” by Ross Douthat (New York Times)

Here comes the bride: Congratulations, Pia and Jason.

Bride wants to play pool, you play pool

Meme it …

… and they will come:

What’s in your hot box?

Nancy:

Sarah, in honor of Kathy:

… and in honor of Nancy:

“Pop Rocks” moment (1 hour, 17 min) from our first official episode on April 27, 2022:

Outro: Thank you, Old 97s!

smoke ‘em