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71. Nick Wallis and #MeToo's Turning Point
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71. Nick Wallis and #MeToo's Turning Point

The British reporter discusses his book, "Depp v Heard," the peak of covering the trial (meeting Sarah Hepola), weird American quirks, and how a sordid divorce turned into a cultural flashpoint
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In this exclusive North American interview, Wallis covers the following:

  • The nature of false accusations, borderline personality diagnoses, and whether “mutual abuse” exists

  • How live-tweeting the UK trial “fed a rapacious audience” that went tribal during the pandemic, and how his tweets got more than 10 million views

  • Why “believe women” clashes with a journalist’s mandate to question everything

  • Can you ever accurately litigate something that happened behind closed doors?

  • How one bad marriage wound up in two different legal judgments

  • Is the court of public opinion more important than real courts?

  • Curious encounters with American food, including Blondies (“what are they?”) and half-and-half (a big thumbs-down)

  • Jimmy Saville, Britain’s #MeToo poster boy

  • The best Australian comedy series right now

  • Period drama, by which we mean menstruation

  • The greatness of Eurovision

  • How many inches is Sarah’s integrity? The answer may surprise you!

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